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Pokemon Center « Thread Started on Oct 28, 2009, 2:56am »
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Players may use the NPC nurse Joy to heal their pokemon , get a room for the night and many more. However, anything else that have a impact on the forum requires a staff member.
That is the summary of the announcement.
We, staff members, decided that members would control the npc in the Pokemon Center by themselves.
However, if anything else done in the Pokemon Center that might cause impact on the forum, the npcs would be controlled by the staff members.
On the side note, there is something else to tell. We are just going to say that from now on , modder only threads will receive the least priority.
Players may use the NPC nurse Joy to heal their pokemon , get a room for the night and many more. However, anything else that have a impact on the forum requires a staff member.
That is the summary of the announcement.
We, staff members, decided that members would control the npc in the Pokemon Center by themselves.
However, if anything else done in the Pokemon Center that might cause impact on the forum, the npcs would be controlled by the staff members.
On the side note, there is something else to tell. We are just going to say that from now on , modder only threads will receive the least priority.
By modder-only, do you mean how i start my IC threads? I only started that because once i got flooded in a thread, whilst i was asleep.
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Re: Pokemon Center « Reply #3 on Oct 28, 2009, 7:49am »
Well i find that kinda unfair - its not my fault that i can't find many RP buddies. I understand how it could get annoying having to reply to a specific thread, but there are lots of other mods who could take a part. I don't mean to sound naggy or inconsiderate - but i think nearly all my IC threads are modder only, so that kinda leaves me in the dust... This announcement sorta explains why i get a day or 2 delay before even 1 post is made...
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Re: Pokemon Center « Reply #5 on Oct 29, 2009, 5:23am »
Then what can i do to stop being purposely delayed? I mean - i would like an RP buddy, but i just can't seem to find 1 - everyone just seems to be too far ahead/behind or occupied with other IC plots. Besides, i'm not a good social person, so i doubt that i would get along too well with a RP buddy. And without an RP buddy, what else do i do? If i don't put 'modder only' then i get flooded, or partnered with someone who i don't get along with. Without a solution, it feels like i'm being targeted personally.
Then what can i do to stop being purposely delayed? I mean - i would like an RP buddy, but i just can't seem to find 1 - everyone just seems to be too far ahead/behind or occupied with other IC plots. Besides, i'm not a good social person, so i doubt that i would get along too well with a RP buddy. And without an RP buddy, what else do i do? If i don't put 'modder only' then i get flooded, or partnered with someone who i don't get along with. Without a solution, it feels like i'm being targeted personally.
By least important we mean that if someone else is posting back in a normal thread they're going to get posted back to first. However we do plan on getting to your thread. If a thread has been ignored for more than a day please inform us in the proper area. ^^ As it probably was just buried.
Modder only threads inhibit you from getting an rp buddy you know? No real character can enter your thread. So it's a glorified closed thread. Not having modder only encourages people to play with you.
Theres no IC plots going on really. And even if there was your welcome to join. So if you see a thread that's not 'mod only' or 'closed' anyone is welcome to come in and play. And I think everyone is encouraged to play with the other members. In fact many members are waiting for others to join in. IC activities and interacting with other members is what defines your character anyway. Because anyone can win against a npc in a battle of wits, pokemon battle, or really anything. As their npcs and are there to be beaten essentially.
If your social or not doesn't affect your characters relationships with anyone. As your characters aren't you nor are the other players characters them. I'm sure you know this already however. You can be best friends with someone yet your characters will hate each other with a passion. Like Alex and Ellie's relationship. We're sisters so we have to love each other or else. But our characters only wish ill will on the other. And that's more fun than characters that are always being nice to eachother anyway. I like it when other characters don't like my characters. Nothing wrong with that.
Flooding isn't a issue on a small site like this. But if you feel that way just put after your post 'don't flood me please' or 'Please stop posting after 5 posts ahead of me so I can catch up' or something like that.
As a solution just don't put 'modder only' on the top of your thread...>.> No reason not too seeing as nobody jumps in other peoples threads too often anyways. And people might want to play with you during any situation.
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Re: Pokemon Center « Reply #9 on Oct 29, 2009, 12:27pm »
The thing is though, i don't specifically want to RP with anybody else - but now i am forced to do it (otherwise my threads get forced to the bottom of the to-do list). Its a little bit like black mail. I can see 100% from your point of view how annoying it must be to be relied on to reply to something, but surely not many people do that already. Besides, most of my characters' priority is to beat trainers who are around their skill of area (NPC's), capture pokemon, and win gymbattles/contests. I can't catch an Ellie, i can't recieve a badge from an Ellie, and i can't get in an equal fight with an Ellie - see what i mean?
I know that, but i mean little player plots, specific character development plots, sub-plots. The ones such as: where your character and your friends characters ate a spoink - nothing too major. And if NPC's are just their to be beaten, why not make them tougher to beat for higher levels. If i know that if i see any NPC i can beat it, it takes away from the fun - you do get beaten by NPC's occasionally.
Yeah, i understand the whole 'your not your character' story. But if i argue with another member, i tend to hold a bit of a grudge, or still get angry with them deep inside - so that would affect my RPing. Occasionally i can let things pass, but at other times i just get frutrated again. Thats 1 of the things which i find hard - getting RP buddys which i can trust and hold nothing against.
The flooding i was refering too was WAY back with you and Vulpix. I remember coming on the next day being 2 pages in to a thread i started the day before. I do know that the site has developed a lot, and therefore this sort of event is rare now - but i'm a real worrier, so thats why i included 'modder only' in the 1st place.
Thats my basic reasons against it. I really don't like having to RP with others, as it often leaves me behind if the person is inactive, or i hold a grudge, or they make a fiesta out of a small thread - so i don't like being forced upon by this new rule/condition.
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Re: Pokemon Center « Reply #11 on Oct 29, 2009, 3:18pm »
You got it Who! ^^
Dude. It's highly doubtful people are going to come into your thread. And that's part of rping too. You never know whats going to happen. Weather your post will only be fighting against npcs or a real player might barge in to bother your character. And most people rely on mods to post in their threads to get an npc. Yet the difference is theres a possibility that another player will come into that thread as well. And they also might want an npc. That means theres one less thread to check while helping two memebers. And thats a really good thing from a mods standpoint. We're overworked. And having to post back to a thread that has no hope of relieving the burden isn't helpful to the site. That's why it gets the least priority while other threads that at least have the hope of helping out is the higher priority. And although I understand that...I just don't see how that's any different that playing the video game...You can catch pokemon with other characters! You can go to gyms with other characters! And yes you can fight other characters! Besides who says mine or other characters want to fight against yours? Ellie for instance won't be challenging anyone to a battle. She has scary level pokemon because I DON'T want people to challenge her to a fight. But if people do hey then we get to see what happens. That's the joy of rping.
At any time another player could have jumped into that thread. Actually it would've been funny and enjoyable if Bes or anyone came in to try to stop them. That's the fun of the game. If a threads not closed then anyone at anytime can come in. Just like in real life. As to making the npcs tougher. No. That makes it alot harder on the staffs end. Plus we don't care...and actually me and Alex HATE npcs with a passion. Having them suffer is enjoyable. And you only get beaten by npcs in the games if your under leveled. Essentially it's the same thing here. The real battles in the games and here is playing against another member. As both players actually you know...like their characters enough to make it a hard battle most of the time.
Well you shouldn't. That's bad rping. Because your not in the role of your character who never met the other character and thus doesn't have any grudges against them.
...Yes how dare three members rp together to cut down staff work when people could only get one post a day. >.> Once again just posting that you don't want people to go ahead too far without you is all that's needed to solve that issue.
Threads aren't constrained on conditions like being short because only blah is happening. If your bored with a thread that's continuing on then just have your character leave. When all said and done the rule is staying. It's not really affecting you. Especially since most normal threads are technically the member and the mod.
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Re: Pokemon Center « Reply #12 on Oct 30, 2009, 2:11am »
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Dude. It's highly doubtful people are going to come into your thread. And that's part of rping too. You never know whats going to happen. Weather your post will only be fighting against npcs or a real player might barge in to bother your character. And most people rely on mods to post in their threads to get an npc. Yet the difference is theres a possibility that another player will come into that thread as well. And they also might want an npc. That means theres one less thread to check while helping two memebers. And thats a really good thing from a mods standpoint. We're overworked. And having to post back to a thread that has no hope of relieving the burden isn't helpful to the site. That's why it gets the least priority while other threads that at least have the hope of helping out is the higher priority. And although I understand that...I just don't see how that's any different that playing the video game...You can catch pokemon with other characters! You can go to gyms with other characters! And yes you can fight other characters! Besides who says mine or other characters want to fight against yours? Ellie for instance won't be challenging anyone to a battle. She has scary level pokemon because I DON'T want people to challenge her to a fight. But if people do hey then we get to see what happens. That's the joy of rping.
Overworked? If you feel overworked, why not implement new rules to lessen the work, or hire more staff? In my opinion, each mod should have work to do, but not much.
I know what you mean by 'like the games', but i suspect that whoever comes into my thread is going to be 'too good' or 'too evil' for my character, or the person themselves is going to help make a page of posts - explaining why my and their are there in the 1st place, or the person is new to RPing - and lacks a bit, or the person is more-so inactive, or the person is going to bring in more people/NPC's. I know from that point i could just leave the thread, but that leaves the mark that they know that i don't really want to RP with them - (and i know this is unlikely) but they could take it personally - i'm a worryer, what can i say? But also, maybe i intended to have a really long, beautiful thread here - but if someone comes along eager to find a dunsparce (yay dunsparce) thats just going to make it feel interupted.
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At any time another player could have jumped into that thread. Actually it would've been funny and enjoyable if Bes or anyone came in to try to stop them. That's the fun of the game. If a threads not closed then anyone at anytime can come in. Just like in real life. As to making the npcs tougher. No. That makes it alot harder on the staffs end. Plus we don't care...and actually me and Alex HATE npcs with a passion. Having them suffer is enjoyable. And you only get beaten by npcs in the games if your under leveled. Essentially it's the same thing here. The real battles in the games and here is playing against another member. As both players actually you know...like their characters enough to make it a hard battle most of the time.
Bes couldn't of, because yet again, he was miles away - just like my characters away from anyone else. Even if it is unlikely to have visitors in a thread, how does not putting 'modder only' ease your way up the list more? I could make a thread where anyone could come in, although noone is around for miles, but a few days pass, and a mod decides to throw in an NPC. I mean, it probably wouldn't of made a difference - but your saying that it moves up the list - even though noone could have come into the thread? And sorry if i'm missing something, but how does making tougher NPC's make it harder for mods? A weaker 1 should require equal work, surely. Then, unless your around level 100 with all of your party pokemon, or you've only just started, your unlikely to find anyone with an equal skill level as yours - so any battle you encounter with someone else, they've either targeted you because you are weak, or they've targeted you at random, which could make them too easy or too hard. Thats basically why i don't like having to battle with others.
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Well you shouldn't. That's bad rping. Because your not in the role of your character who never met the other character and thus doesn't have any grudges against them.
I don't have grudges against the new character, i have grudges against the other person. They're probably miniscule, if any, changes in my RPing with them - so its not much anyway. But its just not fun having to post with an enemy - usually that makes me feel more depressed and/or bored.
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...Yes how dare three members rp together to cut down staff work when people could only get one post a day. >.> Once again just posting that you don't want people to go ahead too far without you is all that's needed to solve that issue.
No, how dare 2 other member flood me 2 pages in from my own thread, make a mini plot, and make the 'magical' feeling of a 1st IC thread disappear - not to mention that i had to wait until i progressed, because i had to wait for you 2 to remove your posts. And the thing is, i don't want anyone in the 1st place, so if they come along and post loads, they should know that i'm being left behind, unless they're newbies to0 RPing - which is exactly the group i don't get along with the most.
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Threads aren't constrained on conditions like being short because only blah is happening. If your bored with a thread that's continuing on then just have your character leave. When all said and done the rule is staying. It's not really affecting you. Especially since most normal threads are technically the member and the mod.
Its not really affecting me? The threads i make, other than 1 or 2 in the past, are all 'modder only'. I only started 'non-modder only' threads a yesterday. And if i'm bored of waiting 4-5 days for a gym thread to be posted in (I am aware of the request-to-post board, but this is just for proof), i don't just leave - i need that badge for the elite 4.
But anyways, i'm just so sick and tired of getting into a heck of a lot of arguements on this site. I will, and have, started to not use 'modder only', but now it means i get stuck with people i hate, and then i have to leave an intended perfectly good thread. And not only that, i still have some massive threads before this rule was made - i guess non of my people are going to progress in the training bureau now. =(
Dude. It's highly doubtful people are going to come into your thread. And that's part of rping too. You never know whats going to happen. Weather your post will only be fighting against npcs or a real player might barge in to bother your character. And most people rely on mods to post in their threads to get an npc. Yet the difference is theres a possibility that another player will come into that thread as well. And they also might want an npc. That means theres one less thread to check while helping two memebers. And thats a really good thing from a mods standpoint. We're overworked. And having to post back to a thread that has no hope of relieving the burden isn't helpful to the site. That's why it gets the least priority while other threads that at least have the hope of helping out is the higher priority. And although I understand that...I just don't see how that's any different that playing the video game...You can catch pokemon with other characters! You can go to gyms with other characters! And yes you can fight other characters! Besides who says mine or other characters want to fight against yours? Ellie for instance won't be challenging anyone to a battle. She has scary level pokemon because I DON'T want people to challenge her to a fight. But if people do hey then we get to see what happens. That's the joy of rping.
Yeah I agree with Shrew here about some characters don't just randomly go hey let's battle! Some got other agenda or are pacifist. For example my character Mr. Turtle wouldn't just randomly pick a fight unless provoked or his Misdreavus Plum picked the fight for him. He's too busy searching for Ghost Pokemon or getting into mischief to care about random battles unless he is caught in between the fray.
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Overworked? If you feel overworked, why not implement new rules to lessen the work, or hire more staff? In my opinion, each mod should have work to do, but not much.
I know what you mean by 'like the games', but i suspect that whoever comes into my thread is going to be 'too good' or 'too evil' for my character, or the person themselves is going to help make a page of posts - explaining why my and their are there in the 1st place, or the person is new to RPing - and lacks a bit, or the person is more-so inactive, or the person is going to bring in more people/NPC's. I know from that point i could just leave the thread, but that leaves the mark that they know that i don't really want to RP with them - (and i know this is unlikely) but they could take it personally - i'm a worryer, what can i say? But also, maybe i intended to have a really long, beautiful thread here - but if someone comes along eager to find a dunsparce (yay dunsparce) thats just going to make it feel interupted.
Considering there's about only two mods that are really actively modding on an average day(at least from what I seen so far as I'm a regular non mod user) I would have to agree with Shrew on the mods are overworked. Plus I'm sure they got a life and offline stuff to do like school, work, family and friends time, etc so it might be a little hard for them to reply to every post in a single day. But in the same sense it might be hard to just find new staff because that person would have to be just as active as the other active mod.
Dude sometimes you got to experience the good and the bad of playing with other people on the site. My character is more chaotic neutral (Goodness I can't believe I used a D & D term here lol) as in he only cares about his own agenda but is willing to side with people that will be of any use to him. It's just that he is a bit nutty and will crush things considered useless to him such as killing a Spearow since he already got a Flying/Normal Pokemon. But he won't kill people I think... It's just that you got to explore the world and both sides of forum.
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But anyways, i'm just so sick and tired of getting into a heck of a lot of arguements on this site. I will, and have, started to not use 'modder only', but now it means i get stuck with people i hate, and then i have to leave an intended perfectly good thread. And not only that, i still have some massive threads before this rule was made - i guess non of my people are going to progress in the training bureau now. =(
Sure it's fun to go on your own but sometimes you might make a new friend if you join a thread. It's not so much of OMG I have beat the Elite 4 before anyone else than it is what can I do to have fun on the site?
Overworked? If you feel overworked, why not implement new rules to lessen the work, or hire more staff? In my opinion, each mod should have work to do, but not much.
Yes. Overworked. It's like Turtle pointed out. Theres only two mods online during the day. And cutting down on work is what this thread is about. Hiring more staff is ALWAYS dangerous. We're making it right now and with these rules things will be easing slightly.
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I know what you mean by 'like the games', but i suspect that whoever comes into my thread is going to be 'too good' or 'too evil' for my character, or the person themselves is going to help make a page of posts - explaining why my and their are there in the 1st place, or the person is new to RPing - and lacks a bit, or the person is more-so inactive, or the person is going to bring in more people/NPC's. I know from that point i could just leave the thread, but that leaves the mark that they know that i don't really want to RP with them - (and i know this is unlikely) but they could take it personally - i'm a worryer, what can i say? But also, maybe i intended to have a really long, beautiful thread here - but if someone comes along eager to find a dunsparce (yay dunsparce) thats just going to make it feel interupted.
Theres no such thing as too good or bad for a character. Different personalities force characters to develop. Wether its from a random thug like Alex coming in to beat your character or from a ultra nice character like Laura coming and offering cookies to your character. How they react defines the character. And that's the most important thing in rping. Posting alot helps move the story along too. XD I mean that's an obvious one. And yes people might see an active thread and decide to hop in too. And mods may come and offer up a fews npcs for everyone. That's a good thread. And having a reason for why your character is leaving wouldn't offend anyone. Because that's your character not you. You might have wanted to leave the thread but as long as it was IC for you character to leave then it's your characters fault not yours. If you want to make a long beautiful post all about your character it's called a closed thread. Everyone makes em once in awhile and they are nice to develop characters every so often. This long beautiful post might have been interrupted by a dunsparce instead of another player and the thread would have been the same anyway.
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Bes couldn't of, because yet again, he was miles away - just like my characters away from anyone else. Even if it is unlikely to have visitors in a thread, how does not putting 'modder only' ease your way up the list more? I could make a thread where anyone could come in, although noone is around for miles, but a few days pass, and a mod decides to throw in an NPC. I mean, it probably wouldn't of made a difference - but your saying that it moves up the list - even though noone could have come into the thread? And sorry if i'm missing something, but how does making tougher NPC's make it harder for mods? A weaker 1 should require equal work, surely. Then, unless your around level 100 with all of your party pokemon, or you've only just started, your unlikely to find anyone with an equal skill level as yours - so any battle you encounter with someone else, they've either targeted you because you are weak, or they've targeted you at random, which could make them too easy or too hard. Thats basically why i don't like having to battle with others.
He easily could have by running forward real fast. Then when the thread ended you could have back tracked to the area you wanted to something else in. Same goes with any character. Have to delay modder only threads is just plain more fair for the person making normal threads. Because they have to wait longer for a mod to reply just because someone is in constant need of mod attention. And it's horrible to have one's thread be buried by a modder only thread and skipped for a few days because of it. And that HAS happened. And it's wrong. Very wrong. Which is why normal threads that have the ability to ease mod stress by at least having the thread open so characters npc needs can be combined get higher priority. Theres the possibility of whipping out two or more npcs for two or more characters characters in one thread. Then theres also the possibility that all the characters in a thread don't want any npcs because they're busy interacting with one another and that's the greatest feeling as a mod. Meanwhile modder only threads ONLY have the possibility to give npc characters to one character. And they don't even have much chance to develop the one character. They don't provide benefits to the site as a whole. And normal threads go just as fast as the old modder only threads. Except faster now as modder only threads are getting the backseat on the attention level.
Tougher npcs mean the battle won't end sooner thus we're needed to reply again and again and again and again. Then theres the fact we'd have to keep looking up the moves for pokemon we don't care if they win or not to make up some stategy and really it's too much work. We don't care. Harder battles mean more work on our part. And your not getting a hard battle from me. (Expect perhaps gym battles. They have set pokemon and it's easy to plan slightly ahead with them.) I can't speak for the rest of the staffers though.
Most people don't challenge people at random (besides Alex). And your character can always turn them down or run. The only battles that will be hard is battles against real characters. Not npcs.
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I don't have grudges against the new character, i have grudges against the other person. They're probably miniscule, if any, changes in my RPing with them - so its not much anyway. But its just not fun having to post with an enemy - usually that makes me feel more depressed and/or bored.
Then there shouldn't be a problem in the actual game. Your character can make it fun so it's not boring or depressing.
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No, how dare 2 other member flood me 2 pages in from my own thread, make a mini plot, and make the 'magical' feeling of a 1st IC thread disappear - not to mention that i had to wait until i progressed, because i had to wait for you 2 to remove your posts. And the thing is, i don't want anyone in the 1st place, so if they come along and post loads, they should know that i'm being left behind, unless they're newbies to0 RPing - which is exactly the group i don't get along with the most.
Yes how DARE two members rp together because they're online. And then get this leave the thread open so if you didn't want to read the two pages of posts you didn't have to and your character really wouldn't have missed anything. How EVIL of us to actually have the audacity to reply and play the game with you. What were we thinking?!!!! An open thread is an open thread. Suck it up. You screwed up the timeline of the game and almost caused a member to quit. I have no pity for you at all in that instance. Especially since two members were punished for no reason because of an overzealous staffer. That's right you were in the wrong there. I received a direct apology for the staffer. They didn't read the posts or the c-box to see what was wrong. Me and Vulpix we're in the right. Do you want to continue this discussion we can take it to pm's. The magic of the first post ends once it's posted. Whoever replies it moves onto the magic of the second post. Then the magic of the third post. And so on and so forth. Threads evolve. One never knows whats going to happened. And that's the joy of rping.
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Its not really affecting me? The threads i make, other than 1 or 2 in the past, are all 'modder only'. I only started 'non-modder only' threads a yesterday. And if i'm bored of waiting 4-5 days for a gym thread to be posted in (I am aware of the request-to-post board, but this is just for proof), i don't just leave - i need that badge for the elite 4.
Then you can wait for the badge. Theres other members that need help too. And yes we're over worked. Sometimes things get forgotten. Reminding us things need done is fine.
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But anyways, i'm just so sick and tired of getting into a heck of a lot of arguements on this site. I will, and have, started to not use 'modder only', but now it means i get stuck with people i hate, and then i have to leave an intended perfectly good thread. And not only that, i still have some massive threads before this rule was made - i guess non of my people are going to progress in the training bureau now. =(
Then don't argue.
I don't see a line of people just waiting to rp with you in these new threads. So I don't see a problem. You probably don't like me and yet I've had to rp your modder only threads. Theres no real difference.
Go to your first post and just modify your post to take out the modder only thing in the beginning. Or just make a new thread. Training bureau stuff always gets behind because that stuff is generally last anyway.
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